09:17:14 From Nicolai Ree : Will you provide us with example solutions for last weeks exercises? 09:17:31 From Nicolai Ree : Cool :) 09:22:28 From Jaime Caballer-Revenga : Don't do these considerations assume that you "know" kind of the shape of this curve (where the local minima are, kind of)? 09:22:55 From Jaime Caballer-Revenga : or you are supposed to try until you grow an "intuition" of where the local minima are 09:22:56 From Jaime Caballer-Revenga : ? 09:24:04 From Laurits Høgel : Are you not supposed to maximise the likelihood? 09:36:02 From Peter Andresen : Then don't you get a good p-value due to the calibration data? without necessarily fitting the signal well? 09:37:24 From Nicolai Ree : Shouldn’t it be theta_i in the equation 09:37:34 From Norman Pedersen : How could one implement the penalty term in Minuit ? 09:38:11 From Peter Andresen : If you simoultaneously fit the calibration and the data you are interested in, Then don't you get a good p-value due to the calibration data? without necessarily fitting the signal well? 09:38:44 From Jaime Caballer-Revenga : could you repeat the implementation on minuit? Just, adding the penalty term to the result ? 09:38:54 From Nicolai Ree : The extra term is inside the sum, right? 09:39:11 From Nicolai Ree : ok 09:39:27 From Nicolai Ree : thanks 09:39:33 From Victor Valera : What if instead of a partially known value, I have a forbidden range? e.g. I don't want negative values 09:40:42 From Anna S : You usually can set the range for which you want to minimize 2LLR 09:41:32 From Anna S : (that was to Victor :P) 09:44:03 From Jakob Riber Rasmussen : Can you repeat how one would fit/test the correlation of the parameters? 09:44:55 From Jakob Riber Rasmussen : Ahh great 09:48:50 From Jaime Caballer-Revenga : How do you obtain the template in first place? 09:48:56 From Jaime Caballer-Revenga : heuristics?, trying? 09:49:04 From Jaime Caballer-Revenga : ok thanks 09:52:56 From Laurits Høgel : why is the error bar increasing with higher value in general? Shouldn’t it be opposite 09:53:50 From Laurits Høgel : Not gonna argue with thtat 09:59:57 From Peter Andresen : Could you say a bit about the parabola shape of the Chi-2 value, and what it could be used to say? 10:00:20 From Peter Andresen : yea 10:02:05 From Peter Andresen : And where did that come from= 10:02:06 From Peter Andresen : ? 10:02:35 From Peter Andresen : Alright, thanks :) 10:02:59 From Nicolai Ree : How is it that the errors on a parameter is calculated by Iminuit, I remember that is was when chi^2 increased by one w.r.t. the minimum chi^2 value, but how is it really happening in Minuit? 10:04:10 From Peter Andresen : In the problem set, there was a question about how much data you would need to get a certaint error on your parameter, how do you figure this out ? :-) We can also take that when you go through it of course 10:04:24 From Nicolai Ree : Yes :) 10:05:37 From Peter Andresen : So the error decreases with sqrt(N)? 10:05:59 From Peter Andresen : Perfect, thanks